Guilt, Marketing, and Redemption

by admin on December 8, 2009

In 1990,  I was a 25 year old intern at a hospital, just shy of getting my doctoral degree.  At the time, like most interns, I was overwhelmed with new responsibilities.  (I was also simultaneously finishing my dissertation, publishing 3 professional papers, and helping Sharon run her company)

One of my primary responsibilities was intake interviews… the first point of contact for a new patient at the hospital.   Sometimes the patients needed to be hospitalized for a few weeks.

One such patient (let’s call him Bob, and let’s change a few other detailed for confidentiality) really connected with me, and felt relieved to be admitted to the hospital.  He was in danger of hurting himself and thanked me profusely for getting him in.

As he was leaving my office Bob casually asked if I’d ever seen the movie “Lawrence of Arabia” with Peter O’Toole.   I hadn’t, and didn’t make much of the comment.

But that month I ALSO did a rotation on the inpatient unit, where I saw Bob every day.  And every day Bob asked me “Did you see Lawrence of Arabia yet?”.

At the time I felt rather annoyed, and just politely said “no” each time.

There were two reasons I didn’t watch the movie.

The first was that I was a “big important intern, about to be a doctor from a prestigious university”… and I didn’t have the time.  The second was I HATED  Peter O’Toole.

You see, I’d recently been in a NYC restaurant with Sharon, gone to the bathroom, and come back to find Peter O’Toole hitting on my wife. (Seriously, I’m not making this up, he was sitting way too close at OUR table when I got back, and Sharon seemed to kind of like it, though she’d vehemently deny this now)

The point is, for personal reasons I refused to enter the patient’s metaphor.

I didn’t want to take the time.  I was more interested in other, “more important” aspects of developing my career.  I thought it wasn’t my responsibility since I had “handed off” the patient to the inpatient unit.

Long story short… Bob tried to kill himself on the ward :-(  (He didn’t succeed)

My supervisors told me it wasn’t my fault, that the whole purpose of being an intern was to learn with a safety net, and that the psychiatrist and/or the treatment team members on the ward should have caught the problem.

It’s all true.

But it’s also entirely intellectual.

Bob connected with ME.  He chose ME to communicate his metaphor.  For all I know, he could have clammed up entirely on the ward.  I was his connection and he was reaching out.  I had put myself out in the world as a clinical psychologist… HIS clinical psychologist when he had the courage to ask for help. (And as an aside, I’ve subsequently learned this is a moment to be treated with great respect, as many, many people will only ask once in their entirely lives!)

So, of course I’m going to tell you your market is reaching out to you with THEIR metaphor, and ask you to give some thought to what you’re ignoring because you don’t have the time or because you think other things are more important.

Of course I’m going to do that, that’s a totally Glenn Livingston thing to say.

But there’s one more piece of the puzzle, which has to do with my thoughts on forgiveness, redemption, and spirituality.

When I tell people I’m “as agnostic as they come”  most seem to think I can’t have morals, or spiritual pursuits.    But they couldn’t be further from the truth.

The fact I don’t believe I can be forgiven forces me to live with my actions every day for the rest of my life.

Can I forgive MYSELF?  Of course I admit I WAS very young, my supervisors WERE right in pointing out it was a learning experience, and I went on to use that experience to benefit hundreds of future patients.

Yes, of course that’s true, and intellectually I forgive myself.  I think 99% of juries would too.

But you know what?  The memory haunts me no matter how I frame it, and no matter what anyone says.

It took five years before I finally watched the movie.  (I kept renting it but couldn’t get myself to watch).   It’s an amazing movie which would have enriched my life AND my abilities as a doctor if I’d made the time in 1990

I used to think my experience was neurotic, that I was holding on to unnecessary guilt due to something unresolved in my past.  Now I know it was both normal and extremely helpful.

Because the result is…  I don’t want to create any more “Bobs” in my life at any cost.

If I had dismissed it casually, forgotten about it, or minimized it, I wouldn’t have so carefully examined what led to the situation, and taught myself to so keenly listen in on my client’s metaphors.

I would have gone right on creating more Bobs.

Now, when I think of my marketing experience, of course there were a few Bobs in the early days.

In the early days of excitement over my low-level fame, I did some joint ventures with people who, looking back, I never would have invited to dinner, and whom I wish I had never introduced to my list.  And in the very early days, I went along with the crowd and made things seem easier than they really are.  (Internet marketing is a REAL business which requires time, energy, character, and capital… not a stupid “lifestyle” business!)

I guess we all have our Bobs in the beginning of any endeavor.  And the more willing we are to enter their metaphor, the less damage we do and the quicker we sharpen our skills and ourselves.

Which, in part is what I’m always trying to do for you.

Ultimately you could say my job is to get you to ask yourself…

“Got any Bobs?”

What painful stories are reaching out to you in your market if you’ll only take the time to listen and enter their world?

Food for thought.

G :-)

www.HyperResponsiveMarketingSecrets.com

PS – You don’t have to read every book your market recommends, that’s impossible, and the analogy breaks down when you’re not doing individual counseling, consulting, or coaching.  But listening to your market’s metaphor does mean spending significant time talking with, surveying, and watching social media on your keyword target.  It’s not just “entering the conversation inside the prospect’s head”… it’s entering their souls, feeling their pain, and letting it all change you as a person. In that way, every marketing campaign should feel like a spiritual journey.

PPS – I used to feel obliged to sell very softly, or never push an offer too hard.  But part of getting older has made me realize that if you really have confidence in what you’re selling, people suffer when you don’t get them to buy it.    Sure, people get annoyed when you raise prices on a deadline, make limited time offers, put a sales link in front of their face, etc.   But in the long run if you’ve got good medicine, it’s better for everyone if you sell more of it, even if the shot doesn’t feel good when they get it.   (Now go sell something)  www.HyperResponsiveMarketingSecrets.com


{ 11 comments… read them below or add one }

Garey 12.08.09 at 8:22 am

Glen,

An important lesson. I know when cash is low and you need to feed the family sometimes principles seem useless and the cash seems all important. Google launched a lawsuit against a scammy Utah company that was encroaching on their Google brand and scamming people out of money.
This morning I got an email from the BBB; my website had 85 inquiries, 0 complaints and I was given and A+ rating. Have I done everything right? Apparently not. I was caught up in the Google dragnet last week and my adwords account was mercilessly terminated after 7 years of business and high quality scores, exceedingly high conversion rates, people were finding exactly what they were searching for and With a track record of excellent customer service I remain baffled. I have written twice in reply to the termination letter but from looking at the forums apparently many people received the same letter. I feel contrite, but I don’t know what for. I can guess that the newsletter sign up on my website was deemed a data collection site, although I really only sell heart healthy vitamins and supplements. Well, all humanity is getting for something, one way or other. None is perfect. Now my lesson is to learn to live with Google adwords traffic. Life is peachy. Glen, thanks for sharing your story.

Chuck Harmon 12.08.09 at 9:45 am

Glenn, thanks for sharing a fascinating story and one with a meaning.

I’m also one who doesn’t want to be as pushy, yet, I feel I have the best memory foam mattress on the market that really will help people sleep better.

Great sleep is essential to great health and a sense of well being.

Thanks for offering a little insight into why I should start being more aggressive.

Paul 12.08.09 at 11:26 am

I was going to make a funny comment, but then I thought that would be highly inappropriate. Anyway, I think your programs (and blog) are well worth the time for anyone who is marketing online. That’s why I have no problem promoting them. I will do more things to promote your stuff knowing that it IS good medicine. Probably one of the major reasons I have struggled in the past is because I didn’t really believe in what I was promoting. When you believe in something you will do things you wouldn’t normally do and have the confidence to go forward. period.

Dave 12.08.09 at 1:25 pm

Glenn,

I really liked your post and its lessons. I agree with you in being confident about knowing the value of the product or service and offering it at a price that instills confidence in the buyer, too.

Price too low – and get perception is that it is junk; price too high, unreasonably – and we get a bad reputation.

Keep up the great work,

– Dave

John Chancellor 12.08.09 at 4:01 pm

Considering how very attractive Sharon is, I find it hard to believe that you could hold a grudge against Peter O’Toole (or anyone else for that matter). She is just too attractive not to notice and appreciate … maybe he went overboard in showing his appreciation.

I love you comments about “going along with the crowd” and what a mistake it is to do things for expedience.

Good lesson. And if you happen to run across old Pete again, tell him to show his appreciation in some more acceptable manner.

Sharon 12.08.09 at 5:00 pm

OMG, is he still going on about poor old Peter O’Toole?! Let’s set this straight once and for all. Sorry Peter. Glenn won my heart. And that’s it!

admin 12.08.09 at 6:31 pm

You liked it and you know it honey :-)

David Epstein 12.10.09 at 2:29 am

I think the most thought provoking post I have read of yours.
Thank you,
David Epstein

David Turner 12.12.09 at 1:54 pm

Hi Glen,
The experience you describe is a moving one indeed, and yes if we’re honest we all have Bob experiences in our businesses. I can speak of this personally as a chartered accountant devoted to improving the lives of my small to medium sized business clients in New Zealand.

However, I have a question to ask of you: You say you don’t believe in a “higher being” who can forgive and yet you believe you can forgive yourself? Do you not also extend to others what you can extend to yourself? I’m sure you do! Why would a “higher being” be any different?

Cheers, mate … thanks for being so open … thousands would not!!

Sonia Simone 12.15.09 at 7:29 pm

Glenn, this is why I like your stuff so much. You may overthink things like crazy, but you seem to turn that to your advantage. :)

admin 12.16.09 at 1:49 pm

Thanks… I think that’s a compliment :-)

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